My Free Speech Trumps the Gospel

Muslims are already suspicious of Christian missionary activities. Acts 17 Apologetics ministry’s actions just added to the misery. It was unfortunate its members were arrested but it was not unexpected. There are indications this was their intent. Dr. Nabeel Qureish stated clearly in an interview before the arrests that Acts 17 would defy the rules of the festival. He said, “We would not follow their exact rules.” Mr. David Wood was overheard before the arrest saying that he planned to defy the rules because getting arrested would get more of an outcry or response.

We know now that these Christians were not arrested for sharing the Gospel or distributing Bibles and tracts as they have publicly said. Two things are clear. First, they didn’t follow the rules of the festival. Second, they have given conflicting statements, which show they were not preaching or distributing materials. Videos show three of them were holding cameras. The fourth one was holding a microphone arguing with Muslims and giving commentary on previous year’s incident, which involved security guards. Who was holding the Bibles and tracts among those arrested?

If preaching were the cause of their arrest, how come Mr. David Wood’s friend, the guy screaming at the police and also shouting “Jesus is Lord!” in this video here was not arrested? Witnesses say he was proselytizing Muslims at the time of the arrests. Acts 17 claimed handing out Bibles and evangelizing was prohibited, but we know it was occurring. Pastor Haytham Abi-Haydar’s church was handing out Bibles and evangelistic materials, literature Acts 17 said they could not hand out in this video here.

I wrote before how Josh McDowell was evangelizing Muslims and also answering questions on “Jesus, the Bible and resurrection” at the festival and yet he was not arrested. He even knocked on doors and went into Muslims’ homes. For those who doubt Josh’s ability to engage Muslims, Mr. Wood’s friend and former Muslim Abdu Murray of Aletheia International trained him in Muslim outreach and evangelism at the annual Legacy Conference in Dearborn the week preceding the festival. I believe this was Josh’s second year at this conference.

Another point of concern is Acts17’s assertion that Dearborn is under Sharia Law; this is simply not the case. Dearborn residents and visitors participate in evangelism. There are local ministries that go weekly throughout neighborhoods handing out Bibles, other evangelizing materials, More than Dreams DVDs, and so on.  How could this happen if there is Sharia law in Dearborn? An internationally known evangelist, a Dearborn resident, goes out weekly into Dearborn neighborhoods and parks handing out Bibles and evangelizing Muslims without incident. The only folks who cry foul are Acts 17 missionaries and their supporters most of whom were just passing through the festival or have never been to Dearborn, let alone a country under Sharia law.

Acts 17 ministry has done damage to Christian outreach to Muslims and other unbelievers. We should remain steadfast in rebuking them and asking them to work with the hard-working Christians reaching out in Dearborn.

On a side note, there were some scheduled debates during the festival that were canceled because some Muslims rescinded. I was planning on coming to Romulus for some of them and the reason I was given for the cancellations was the presence of Prophet Muhammad cartoons on Acts 17 website. This group claims to love Muslims. Sadly, their actions speak a different tune. Some Muslims objected, they argued their right to “free speech.” They come across as sarcastic and not at all concerned about the offense the cartoons are to Muslims. They lack empathy and their statements about the cartoons incite anger rather more than anything else. The cartoons are a stumbling block and by their actions they move this stumbling block in front of Muslims rather than moving on to issues which matter more like the Trinity, crucifixion, Jesus’ Sonship, etc. How would these “missionaries” expect Muslims to give them an audience when they fragrantly “insult” their prophet? Debating was one way they tried to reach out to Muslims and now that door is slam shut because of their arrogance. How sad!

On a similar note, a Florida church has scheduled international burn a Qur’an day on September 11. Not surprising, some of Dove World’s argument is also “free speech.” Is this a new trend in Christian outreach to Muslims? Whatever happened to Jesus words “be wise as serpents and harmless as doves?” Sadly, I hear “my free speech trumps the Gospel!”

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  • Zack T

    woops… so sorry… submitted my comment on the wrong post. I’ve submitted my comment on the correct intended post. So sorry about that.

  • Zack T

    Yes, indeed, Ekbert. As you said, how does Hussein know Lopes was Fat Man?
    (I don know if he is, or isn’t. I’m just saying)

    Looking at the post and the back-forth comments between Hussein and Lopes… I figured out why he made that link…
    It was because in Hussein’s 2nd response to Lopes, he assumed Lopes was Fat Man by ending his comment with “Am I clear? You have crossed the line, Fat Man!”

    Unfortunately, according to Lopes, Hussein has deleted his answer/response since then, and has decided to stop commenting any further.
    -> husseinwario.com/blog/2010/08/02/my-free-speech-trumps-the-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-1647
    (I don’t know Fat Man personally or long enough, but I have commented/debate against him reasonably enough to hold the opinion he doesn’t back down so quickly/easily)
    ______________

    And as everyone has been demanding from you, Mr Hussein, please list the festival rules that the Acts17 team broke on that Friday.

    And then, if you finally do, please explain how breaking those rules warranted their arrests and their properties being confiscated.
    (I’m curious as to how breaking a festival rule can lead or require someone to be arrested immediately.. instead of warning once or twice.)
    _______________

    And please explain why is Negeen’s arrest NOT uncalled for?
    What was the ‘criminal complaint’? Why was it right for the officer to demand Negeen to turn off her camera; lay his hands on her; and also not explain what the criminal complaint was about?
    Also, what warranted the officers demanding/ordering Negeen to undress herself in front of male offciers? Was that right?
    ______________

    Has this been mentioned yet? I’ve not noticed it mentioned anywhere or by anyone. (Maybe I overlooked)

    What about the fact that the officers did not explain anything to the Acts17 team on the reason for their arrest?
    e.g. “You are under arrest for committing *so and so* felony, YOu have the right to…..”
    There was none of that. Just pop in, ‘we need to talk to you’, drag drag to the side, then on goes the silver bracelets on their hands.

    Why are you, Hussein, defending the officers for doing such arrests that disrespect and violates the rights of the Acts17 team to know what they’re arrested for, assuming it was legal and right to arrest them?

    • Zack T

      Woops.. so sorry.. commented on the wrong post. I’ve resubmitted the same comment to the intended post. Sorry about that

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  • Haecceitas

    Hussein, do you object if I start posting here as “Hussein W”?

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Would you please answer my question?

      • Haecceitas

        What question?

  • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

    Hussein,

    We’re still waiting for a list of festival rules we violated. You have repeatedly declared, with complete confidence, that we broke the rules. Yet when we ask a simple question, “Which rules did we break?” you remain silent.

    I find it interesting that when someone challenged your background, you became extremely defensive. So you believe that someone shouldn’t criticize another without good evidence? Great! You’ve openly condemned us (including a teenage girl) for breaking the rules. Now please tell us which rules we broke.

    I’m going to keep posting this question until you respond.

    • Mr Lopes

      Dear Alll,
      I am just wandering WHY did Hussein delete my answer?

      It would be so much easier for him just to stop spreading news that he has not even researched well.

      Since he deleted my last comment, I feel that my time with him is OVER.

      I dont think he has enough integrity to ADMITE his mistakes.
      Blessings to all

    • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

      I’m still waiting Hussein. You have said, repeatedly, that we broke the rules of the festival. We have asked, repeatedly, for you to list the rules we broke. Should we interpret your silence as an admission that you have falsely accused us? If you know you have falsely accused us, why don’t you admit it and apologize?

      • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

        Mr. Wood,
        I will post the rules you broke at the festival by 6:00 EST. Is that clear?

        • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

          Works for me.

          Take note everyone. Hussein has accused us of breaking festival rules. We have asked him over and over again to list the rules we broke. He now promises to give us a list of the rules we have broken. Will Hussein’s claims be in line with the video evidence? Will the facts be distorted? Let’s see.

          I’m looking forward to seeing what he comes up with. Keep in mind that this is a Christian!

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            I don’t see the list Hussein. Where did you post it?

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            Mr. Wood,
            I do not have a copy of the Arab festival rules. Everyone else I know who has tried to get a copy has not succeeded. The number one rule that people who have attended for the past 15 years told me is, everyone who distributes literature is required to have a booth. Another rule that has been mentioned to me by a pastor who lives in another state other than Michigan is, people were required to either stay at their booths or keep on moving. He was singing with a group outside of his booth and the police told them to keep on moving after about every song so that they would not gather a crowd. From reading the police report, had you not told Negeen to resist arrest, I do not think you guys would have been arrested. I still think that Mr. Williams must have framed you. The police would have known the truth had Negeen complied but here we are.
            On the other hand, I have a problem with your contradictory statements. Here is a post that addresses that. Acts 17 Apologetics’ Claims Examined.

  • Gem

    Dear Wario,

    I have been following the debut and feel sad to see how you still hold your old nature as you used to hold before you know Christ.

    Please Wario, have integrity.. re-evaluate your integrity… re-think what would Jesus do in such a situation?

    Would you believe that Christ will praise you for what you do?
    or Would you believe Christ will reprimand you for what you do?

    In Christ only, please review yourself with HIM.. I am not to judge but I know when it is wrong or not…

    I must say you are in the wrong path brother. I am from Indonesia and now lived in New Zealand. I felt the prosecution for being a Christian and I knew how dangerous to spread the good news of Christ the Messiah to the Muslims… My approach was the same as David, Sam, Nabeel, Negeen and the rest.. Results God the Holy Spirit really convicted those who HE called to repent..

    So, let’s work for the Glory of God. You are wasting your time…

    Love in Christ

  • Dee

    Mr. Wario,
    I will pray that your heart will be full of the spirit to do the right thing and to stop this nonense of attacking and convicting ACTS17, your fellow brethren.

    God Bless you and yours,

    Dee

  • Mr Lopes

    HI, I must say that Hussein is just trying to get attention, because he himself CLAIMS to be a former Muslim and that his life is in danger. FUNNY, strange?

    Well, I know Kenya and I know his tribe also. He claims to be OROMO, but I think he is BORANA, though his tribe is not important right now.

    He is being DEPORTED back to Kenya. What is strange is that this guy claims that his life will be in danger IF the American Government kicks him out of America. FUNNY because the situation is NOT so bad in Kenya.

    Sure, there are a few extremists in Northern Kenya, but we have hundreds of former muslims living there among their own tribes and families and very very few are being harassed by their families. The Somalis are the toughest ones.

    Kenya is a place where the Oromos and Boranas are constantly converting to Christianity to Islam and back to Christianity.

    I would not spend too much time or energy with this guy, he is a NOBODY and his circle of influence is minimum. His book must be that kind of book that you read next to the fire place. It will keep the fire burning.

    Sorry for saying that Hussein, but your lack of PROPER RESEARCH on the SHARIA in Dearborn case, shows that your book must have the same flaws in your book.

    Besides Hussein is UNKNOWN in Kenya, I never heard about him before, I doubt whether a handful of people knows him in Kenya.

    Nabeel and David, I am sorry that you have to go through it and being accused by some people that should be praying for your and encouraging you.

    You are in my prayers.

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Lopes,

      You claim to be an African Inland Mission missionary to Kenya but you are full of lies.
      1. Your IP address shows that you are in Herndon, Virginia, and your comments are logged in the Eastern Time Zone. Are you on furlough?
      2. You are using a fake aimint.org email address. I know so because I have friends who serve with A.I.M.
      3. I am not from the Oromo or Borana tribe like you have claimed. Oromos are from Ethiopia.
      4. You call yourself a missionary to Kenya yet you are dishonest and don’t even know basic facts.
      5. There are people who know me in Kenya. I have no idea where you serve or served. For a missionary who has been in Kenya for 10 years as your previous post has stated, you are an impostor, possibly one of those missionaries who camp at AIM’s Mayfield Guest House and the only time they actually step their foot onto the mission field is when their furlough approaches, armed with cameras, venture downtown Nairobi to interview Kenyans to show their churches back in the United States or Europe, “what they were up to when they were “missionaries” in Kenya.” Very unfortunate but you fit into that category.
      6. There are no Oromos in Kenya. So much for saying, “Well, I know Kenya and I know his tribe also.”
      7. You probably read one of the Associated Press articles about the appeal court’s decision. The Tana River District (where I hail from) is not in the North Eastern Province. I am a native of Coast Province and I keep in touch with missionary who still serve or have served among my people group.
      8. Here are articles by the Holland Sentinel and the Grand Rapids Press. The GR Press has Stephen Braaksma—one of the missionaries’ children, an adult now, saying:
      I came to know Hussein perhaps 14 years ago, because my parents were missionaries to the Orma people. When Hussein’s relatives tried to poison him, at times he took refuge in our house.
      Hussein’s case is unique in that he PUBLICLY testified at rallies in Kenya about attempts by Muslims to kill him for converting to Christianity. When any Muslim in most of the world converts, their relatives are likely to try to kill them. But since Husseing [sic] testified PUBLICLY, then there are millions of Muslims ALL OVER Kenya who feel that killing him is justified.
      Yes, he is now married to an American, if deported to Kenya he may reapply, and probably be able to come back to the US on a permanent basis. But the issue is, what will happen to him while he is in Kenya for a year? He is already a marked man for speaking the truth about his situation. Therefore, the US would be wise to grant Hussein asylum.

      Check it out for yourself and stop spreading lies.
      9. I suffered persecution when I lived in Kenya and it has been documented. Since you claim to be an African Inland Mission missionary to Kenya; do you know Morell Swart? If you don’t, you are a bona fide wannabe missionary. Her 1998 book, The Call of Africa, is a must read for every AIM missionary and has my story beginning with page 479. You can read it for yourself on Google Books.
      10. I spoke at Grace Community Church in Hudsonville, MI, last September. The pastor attended Biola University for undergraduate. His roommate was a missionary to my people group. Here is what the pastor had to say, reading a letter from his college friend who knew me when I was going through persecution in Kenya. The missionary is still in Africa, in a different country.
      11. So, nice story. Stop your lies. You have been exposed.

      • Craig Daliessio

        Hussein,
        For the record, I received several nasty emails from a man with a Herndon IP address when I posted on my blog in support of doctor Caner. He claimed to be a fellow believer but certain repetitive phrases kept cropping up in his responses to me and I finally called him on being a muslim posing as a Christian to attack Caner.
        Could be this same fellow

      • Lopes

        Hi Wario,

        I dont judge a book by its cover, but I can judge a book by its author.
        I am not crazy to post any details about my life here bro, if you want to know who I AM, you should call my office. Let others praise you Prov. 27.2

        WHAT a WONDERFUL CONCEPT you have of missionaries. Congratulations.
        Actually you should include a chapter in your book, about them.
        That is probably what motivated you to ATTACK ACTS 17.

        Quoting you:
        “possibly one of those MINISTRIES who camp at their OFFICES and the only time they actually step their foot onto the mission field is when their furlough approaches, armed with cameras, venture downtown DEARBORN to interview MUSLIMS to show their churches back in the United States” …

        It seems so clear to me. Well, they have cameras.

        Wario, it is so simple:
        YOU HAVE CROSSED the line.

        • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

          Do you know me to say that about me or to have read my book to comment about its content? You are masquerading as someone who used to a missionary to Kenya for “over 10 [ten] years” yet you get even some basic facts about Kenya wrong. You claimed to know my tribe and in the same comment contradict yourself. Why do I have to waste my time arguing with you?
          I have never dismissed Acts 17 Apologetics as impostor missionaries like the missionaries I met in Africa. However, if they go to the Arab festival next year, and again bring mostly their cameras and other equipment, leaving their Bibles and pamphlets at home or their hotels, then I might have to compare their missionary activities with the impostors in Kenya. Am I clear? You have crossed the line, Fat Man!

  • Pat

    Hussein,

    You seem to like to avoid the real issue, while you continue to attack Acts 17. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Instead, you are holding to guilty until proven innocent. Why do I claim this? You will not state what festival rules were broken or what they did worthy of being arrested. Even putting aside CLEAR evidence that has already shown that the police report contained lies (no more video evidence is needed to establish this point, as the report speaks to a SPECIFIC time frame, which has been shown completely by the videos posted), it can still be established that you are irresponsibly attacking Acts 17.

    This is demonstrated by your statement that you will rescind the allegations against Acts 17, if they are exonerated. By stating this, you implicitly admit that you DO NOT have evidence that implicates Acts 17. Furthermore, your request for Acts 17 to admit wrongdoing, if they are convicted, is a conflation of the nature of truth. The decision of a court has NO BEARING on the reality of what occurred. You admit that Acts could be innocent (which I believe has been substantiated on many account, and a hyper skeptical “missing footage” claim is no basis to attacks Act 17 – the presumption when in doubt is innocence); therefore, your request can be understood as follows, “I know you may be innocent, but if you’re convicted by a third party judicial system will you please lie as say you were guilty all along?” What was the point of such a request?

    As you tend to dance around the real issues, please reply to this in a simple straightforward way. You can respond to the rest of my post, but first make a single post that is a simple list. List what festival rules and/or arrestable offenses that you believe Acts 17 committed. I won’t even ask you to defend the accusations in this post. Just list them. Then in later posts we can address each accusation individually.

    • Sophia

      Pat’s comment that you have chosen to believe Acts 17 “guilty until proven innocent” is a fair assessment of your take on the Dearborn arrests and it recalls some thoughts I had when I read your previous blog post about Dr. White’s response to Acts 17 vs his response to Dr. Ergun Caner.

      Dr. White and others found quite a lot of evidence that Dr. Caner had misrepresented himself. While we can respect the good ministry work Dr. Caner has done in his life, we cannot, in the spirit of Christian love, allow him to continue in such sin that harms himself and the witness of the Church to an unbelieving world. Nevertheless, it appears that no matter what evidence was brought forth revealing his problems, you had entrenched yourself in the position that Dr. Caner was innocent of any wrong-doing. In effect, he was innocent despite being proven guilty. So why do you have such a double standard?

      Furthermore, if the world’s standard is “innocent until proven guilty,” shouldn’t we, who are called to be the representation of the God who is infinite and perfect love, be at least as generous as the world is with our own brothers and sisters in the Lord?

  • Sophia

    Mr. Wario, it seems that you have not approached this entire situation with an unbiased mind, but it wasn’t until you linked to such a horrible video about Negeen that I felt compelled to respond.

    It is absolutely unacceptable that you are promoting a video attacking a young teenage girl who has shown immense bravery and faith in leaving her home and all she knows to follow after the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in His provision. This sweet child of God should be commended for her courage NOT condemned as “ungodly” and lacking the fruits of the Spirit. I admire how she stood her ground when the police intimidated her and attempted to illegally arrest her for some vague “criminal complaint,” which they refused to explain. She had every right to make herself heard when they man-handled her. She was violated by those police officers, being stripped of her rights and apparently her clothes as well. How could anyone then say to her, “Apologize to those police officers?” Why should a victim apologize to the tormenter? I am shocked and wounded on her behalf for these videos and attacks.

    It would be wise for you to step back from this situation and get a clearer perspective. Do some unbiased research…even learning the correct name spelling of the people whom you are attacking would be an improvement to what you have written so far.

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Sophia,

      Thank you for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate it. I would like you to know that Mr. Wood misled his readers by claiming that the video exposing Negeen’s arrest is mine. It is not. As for the rest of your writing, I am going to respond to it tomorrow. “My Free Speech Trumps the Gospel” was supposed to be my final post. Not anymore. I am going to respond to all Acts 17 accusations. I hope they are ready to face their contradictory statements.

      • Pat

        Hussein,

        The video “was yours” in the sense that it was not the complete video. David was completely honest to refer to it as “your” video. I understand the misconception may arise, if people think that you filmed it, but that does not mean the David was deceitful.

        I have followed this Acts 17 incident rather closely, and am far from impressed with your handling of the issue. It falls short on many accounts, and I recommend you just back off until the court rulings come out, especially since you’ve admitted that an innocent ruling would justify you rescinding your comment. Just save yourself the trouble and time, and leave less to rescind.

        • Pat

          The first paragraph of my above post was a bit muddled I think. To clarify, I understand that you want it known that you did not make the video, but please take ownership that you were willing to use it in support of your argument.

          The fact of whether it was made by you or not seems a bit irrelevant to the fact that you seem to endorse it.

      • Sophia

        Thank you for your response, Mr. Wario.

        To clarify, in my comment I stated that you are “promoting a video” not that you were the maker of it. On the answeringmuslims.com blog, there was no statement that you made the video either but rather that you posted a link to it, which is an accurate statement. Whether you made the video or not, you are sharing it as a criticism of Negeen, and that is what I find unacceptable.

        I saw no deceit on the part of David Wood in his post saying that you linked to the video. However, the person who made the video attacking Negeen as “ungodly” is not only deceitful in his distorted content but also in the fact that he is obviously hoping to confuse people by presenting his name as Nabeel Qureishi. I’ve also noticed someone on this blog referring to himself as DrOakley, obviously trying to confuse people by using the nickname of Dr. James White.

        Do you not think it is concerning that the people who are supporting your position have resorted to these deceptions?

        From the first video made the day after the arrest and imprisonment of these four, they have had one story that has not changed. Nabeel even stated something to the effect, “Our story will remain the same. Others will have to change their stories.” And that is what I have seen over the past two months. The Acts 17 account of what happened has not varied, but the attacks have been changed again and again as they are repeatedly defeated by the evidence.

        • John C

          The account of Acts 17 has not varied? Really? At first they said bibles and evangelism was prohibited, then they said it was partially prohibited, then they said other Christians didn’t have problems, only they did because they were the only ones “vocally preaching the gospel,” which, of course, is a lie. The humility of that last statement is striking.

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            It still amazes me that people have to make things up in order to attack us. When did we say that no evangelism was allowed in Dearborn? When did we say that no one was free to distribute Bibles in Dearborn? This is sheer deception on the part of our critics.

            Our claim, from our very first videos after the festival, was this: (1) We were arrested while having a peaceful dialogue about Christianity at the festival; (2) two days later, police took us into custody for handing out copies of the Gospel of John outside the festival. Our story has not changed. The only stories that have changed are those of our hate-filled critics, who keep inventing new tales!

  • Ratty

    Hussain,

    Your deception and lies make me sick to my stomach. I cannot believe how much rubbish is written about Nabeel, David and Negeen. They did nothing wrong and in all the videos I have yet seen, I haven’t seen any evidence to indicate that they broke any rules.

  • Ekbertus

    These people don’t even know how to spell surrounded. AND NO !!!!! His name is NOT CAPANOWSKI! Its Kapanowski!!! This just goes on to show that these so called Christian critics didn’t even bother to read one single report by themselves. Its all word of mouth with these people. Ask yourself: “are people going to take me seriousely after i post this video” before you post the video…

  • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

    Brother Hussein–

    Why have you not responded to my comments below? You’re responding to everyone else’s comments, why not mine?

    -Nabeel

    • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

      HELLO?!?

      • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

        Are you still there?

        • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

          Finally! Thank you for responding to me. I posted this below, but it seems you missed it. I will repost it here and wait for your response:

          Hussein–

          I just want to know this: it seems like your sticking point is that we must have been doing something wrong for the 15-20 minutes before the first arrest. Okay, when you see that footage and find that we did nothing wrong at all, will you rescind your comments, erase your post, and publish an apology?

          Or will you find another reason to accuse us? When will you feel ashamed before the Lord for falsely accusing your brothers and seek to repair your damages? What will it take?

          Your brother in Christ,
          -Nabeel

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            Nabeel,

            I have not been ignoring you. I have a life besides this blog. I hope you understand. In the end, if all evidence exonerates you, I will rescind my comments, erase my posts, and publish an apology. Will you do the same if you are convicted? Do you have everything you did at the Arab festival on video?

          • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

            I understand you have a life other than this blog, but you were responding to many people other than me, and that cannot be explained by your busy life.

            If there is anything at all in our videos or any other evidence which shows us intentionally breaking rules or being uncivil or screaming, etc., then of course I will apologize. I already know I will have to do no such thing because I committed none of the above actions. It just remains to be seen whether you will hold up to your side of your promise.

            I rather dislike having unnecessary arguments with other believers, but I do not understand why you’re doing what you’re doing. I just pray you’ll be honest and do as you say when the evidence fully exonerates us.

            In Christ,
            -Nabeel

  • jose

    Hussein,

    To many of us your article seems void of facts.You are losing credibillity bro.

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Facts Acts 17 left out. Check this video on Negeen’s arrest.

      • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

        Wow. Just wow. Hussein is now going to hate sites that are as deceptive as he is in order to continue his attacks.

        I hope Hussein’s readers are paying attention to this. We might need to do an entire series to refute Hussein’s deception.

        At first, I thought that Hussein might just be misunderstanding something. But now it’s just too late for that. He really thinks it’s okay to lie about people in order to attack them. We’ve exposed his deceptive claims over and over again, and instead of correcting his claims, or apologizing, he simply adds more deceptive claims. Visit our blog for a response to this video.

        But will Hussein apologize for attacking our sister Negeen? Of course not.

        • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

          Mr. Wood,
          Please do not ask YouTube to remove that video. Thank you. It is evident that police did not initially go to Negeen to arrest her. So much for your denigration of the police. You have not been telling the truth. There are more discrepancies in your story. Mark you; Christians have made these videos. I had a lot of respect for Acts 17 Apologetics until this fiasco in Dearborn.
          If you don’t mind me asking again, why do you still have Muhammad cartoons on your website? Where is your love for your neighbor? Is this how you want to reach Muslims for Christ?

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            Have the video taken down? I just posted it!

            http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2010/08/hussein-wario-attacks-negeen-mayel.html

            Just so you know, you crossed the line when you came after Negeen.

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            Mr. Wood,
            You are misleading your audience. The video is not mine. Would you make the correction? When the police officer went to Negeen, he did not go there with the intention to arrest her. You are misrepresenting the facts again. How sad!

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            I say at the beginning that it’s a video you linked to. From then on, I call it “Hussein’s video” because it’s the video you’re using on your blog to attack Negeen. Live with it.

            And if the police weren’t arresting her, they had no right to touch her. But they did touch her. So they were arresting her.

            Notice that they did the same thing to Nabeel. They said they wanted to talk to him. But as soon as he stepped over to talk to them, they put handcuffs on him.

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            I say at the beginning that it’s a video you linked to. From then on, I call it “Hussein’s video” because it’s the video you’re using on your blog to attack Negeen. Live with it.

            How deceptive, Mr. Wood. No wonder even Fox News does not have the video about your version of the story on their website. The host said you were “arrested for handing out copies of the Gospel of John.” How come you did not correct him if he was telling a lie?

          • PaulLee

            Mr. Wood,

            I am wondering why you cite two cases, one from Maine and one from North Carolina, to justify Nageem’s resisting of arrest. Surely you did more research than just google, and you know the difference between persuasive and controlling authority, right?

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            Nice try Paul. The point is that everyone is attacking Negeen (including you, it seems), because she questioned the officer’s order. But he had no right to tell her to stop filming, and he had no right to put his hand on her. Are you saying that the Constitution suddenly changes in Michigan, and that police can illegally seize property, and illegally put their hands on a young girl who hasn’t done anything wrong?

            I hope you never get to make laws in our country! It would be a very different place if people lose their rights!

          • http://epagonizesthai.blogspot.com/ Luis Dizon (Fisher)

            Agreed with David here. Going after Negeen is just low. Very low.

            You really seem to care more about critiquing your brothers and sisters than actually facing the enemies of the cross. That is sad.

      • Hiwot

        Wow, Hussein. I didn’t think you were going to use such video as your evidence. That is not professional. I am about to lose faith in you and your articles. Please wake up and examine your position.

        Love in Christ.

        • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

          Why can’t I “use such video as” evidence? Do you care to explain? What is wrong with the video? It is an Acts 17 video after all. It shows that Mr. Wood has not been truthful about Negeen’s arrest. How can I believe his story when it contradicts his own video and also other Christians’ who witnessed events leading to the arrests?

          • Hiwot

            Hussein, I would expect you to come-up with the original video clip or something that shows the reason why they were arrested not someone’s video which the person using Act17’s video and misrepresenting them by taking words out of context.

            When you condemn someone for their wrong doing you must present evidence other wise it becomes slandering.

            If someone slanders you with your own articles by taking words out of their context, would you expect me to believe them rather than reading your articles and examining it myself?

            Best wishes.

  • Linda

    Do you think you have too much time on your hands?, your blogs seem to indicate so.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0tc2D9ehnk

    Or rather does it indicates you have not spent enough time on researching this issue.

    Which one is it?

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Linda,
      Now you are insulting me. I raise legitimate questions and you question my work ethic. Have you seen a “GIVE” or “DONATION” button on this blog? Would you please answer the questions? Thank you.

      • Linda

        You are insulting logic, especially when you say this:

        “Linda,
        I disagree with you. The Apostles always obeyed authorities. In this case they were told not preach in Jesus name and they refused to obey because they knew it was wrong. …”

        Logic says the Apostles did not always obey authorities since in the book of Acts it clearly shows them disobeying authorities. You are very illogical.

        • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

          Was Acts 17 asked not “to preach” in Dearborn? No. So your scripture reference is irrelevant. And you are evading the other questions.

          • Linda

            You are the one evading the real issue – the issue is obedience to God trumps obedience to human authorities.

            So long, I can see I am wasting my time even talking to you.

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            You have just proven my point. Acts 17 was not forbidden from preaching the Gospel in Dearborn. Bye.

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            Hussein,

            Does integrity mean anything to you? Do you really believe that it’s okay for you to invent things about us?

  • Linda

    The issue is not about free speech rights, obeying God trumps obeying man, a country giving you free speech rights is irrelevant, have you not read about the apostle Peter disobeying the Jewish rulers in order to get the gospel out, read from Act 4:

    When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus. 14But since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was nothing they could say. 15So they ordered them to withdraw from the Sanhedrin and then conferred together. 16“What are we going to do with these men?” they asked. “Everybody living in Jerusalem knows they have done an outstanding miracle, and we cannot deny it. 17But to stop this thing from spreading any further among the people, we must warn these men to speak no longer to anyone in this name.”

    18Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God’s sight to obey you rather than God. 20For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Linda,
      I disagree with you. The Apostles always obeyed authorities. In this case they were told not preach in Jesus name and they refused to obey because they knew it was wrong. How does that compare with Acts 17 Apologetics in Dearborn? They weren’t told to stop proclaiming the Gospel. They refused to obey festival rules. The violation wasn’t about preaching. Now what do you have to say about Muhammad cartoons on their website? Do you have an idea how offensive these cartoons are to Muslims? How do you justify their presence on a website who owners claim to love Muslims?

      • Linda

        You sound very confused, first you say they “the Apostles always obeyed authorities” then you say “they refused to obey”. If they refused to obey then they cannot have always obeyed. You are not logical at all, how can I even have a discussion with you if you are not logical with what you say?

        • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

          The Apostles always obeyed authorities except for when they were forbidden to preach the Gospel.

          • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

            Hussein,

            I’ll ask again, since I already asked on my blog, which festival rules did we violate? You keep saying we broke the rules. Please list the rules we broke.

      • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

        You said: “They refused to obey festival rules.”
        I say: Which rules did we refuse to obey?

  • Mr Lopes

    Hi Wario,

    I live in Kenya for about 10 years, it is funny that I have never heard about you before last week. What have you done all this time? Where have you been all this time?

    What a mess you have put yourself.
    Do not say what you dont know, bro, it will only defame yourself.

    Show some African wisdom, stay away from issues that you do not understand.

    • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

      Lopes,
      When were you in Kenya? What part? “Funny that” you did not hear of me “before last week.”
      I am not in any mess. David Wood and Nabeel Qureish have not refuted the fact that they said they would disobey festival rules. A witness has said David intended to defy the rules so that he would get arrested as that “would get more of an outcry.” So, mind your own business, former African Inland Mission employee.

      • http://www.AnsweringMuslims.com David Wood

        We didn’t refute the “fact” that we said we would disobey festival rules? You accused Nabeel of this, and you claimed (1) that he said something he didn’t say, and (2) that he said it before the festival. Your claims have been proven false on both counts. Where’s the apology to Nabeel?

        As for me, I don’t know how to refute an anonymous witness.

        Suppose, Hussein, that I start behaving like you. I say on my blog: “I have a witness who says that Hussein Wario loves to lie about Christians. In fact, before he wrote these blog posts, Hussein went around bragging that he’s going to lie about us!”

        How would you refute my anonymous source?

        BTW, I’m still waiting for you to list the festival rules we violated.

      • Lopes

        Wario,
        Well you are so smart. How did you know that I am a former AIM?
        The point here is: you should do a better research before expressing your opinions.
        When are you going to be back in Kenya? I would love to meet you face to face.
        Blessings
        Lopes

  • Ekbertus

    Thank you for the reply Hussein. You must understand my frustration when i see a police officer telling david and the rest “naw your FINE” minutes before they get arrested for a “criminal complaint” (mind you sister Nageen had been already arrested by this time, but no mention of that from the cops when they told David “naw your FINE” – it just all strikes me as very unusual. There is no way of getting around this law enforcement official telling David that they were fine where they were. And there is no getting around the fact that Nageen was getting her mugshots taken as the cop was saying those words to David.

    And i just have to get this off my shoulders. Signing copies of your own fictional book is NOT preaching The Good News of Christ Jesus! at all…

    And please do understand, i appreciate your outreach to Muslims and what you do exposing Islam and trying to save souls (however i am starting to question your methods having now read a book titled Dhimmis). But we need no more dissention in the Body over this issue. Please wait until the evidence exonorates the brothers before any more prattleling.Thank you.

  • Ekbertus

    please disregard the previous post….

    thank you…

  • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

    Dear Hussein–

    This is Nabeel Qureshi, your brother in Christ whom you are attacking in the above blog. I don’t know who you are, but I would expect a fellow member of Christ to contact his brother before inflicting wounds in His body so flippantly. A great many Christians have attacked our actions and our intentions without having the slightest truth in their assertions and without having contacted us first for verification. It saddens me tremendously, and your article especially saddens me, because you even quote a radio show which clarifies many of the false statements you have made.

    Brother I pray for the Lord to renew in you a sense of unity for the Body of the Lord, and for Him to instill in you a true and deep understanding of Jn 13:35. My prayer is that the Lord would use you to spread His glory to the utmost and that He would place a stumbling block in your path should you turn and attempt to divide His body. I pray this in the powerful name of Jesus Christ.

    Your brother,
    -Nabeel

    • http://www.answeringmuslims.com Nabeel

      Hussein–

      I just want to know this: it seems like your sticking point is that we must have been doing something wrong for the 15-20 minutes before the first arrest. Okay, when you see that footage and find that we did nothing wrong at all, will you rescind your comments, erase your post, and publish an apology?

      Or will you find another reason to accuse us? When will you feel ashamed before the Lord for falsely accusing your brothers and seek to repair your damages? What will it take?

      Your brother in Christ,
      -Nabeel

  • Haecceitas

    “There are indications this was their intent. Dr. Nabeel Qureish stated clearly in an interview before the arrests that Acts 17 would defy the rules of the festival. He said, “We would not follow their exact rules.””

    Hussein, it seems quite clear that you did not listen to the interview you are referring to. How do I know this?

    (1) You think that this interview took place before the arrest (which it didn’t, as the interview makes very clear).

    (2) You reproduced the slight misquotation given in the Baptist Press article.

    Here’s his statement in its entirety, transcribed from the interview:

    “Now I’m not saying all Christians who were there were being persecuted, but I’m saying we who are vocal in our presentation of Christianity are being persecuted when we are there unless we follow their exact rules, which we don’t have to do.”

    The “which we don’t have to do” part only makes sense if we understand him to be referring to something other than lawful rules of the festival. The most likely meaning for “rules” would seem to be something like “policies that the festival security wanted to enforce even if they had no right to do so”. Only few moments later he makes it clear that they wanted to take precautions to ensure no one would have a reason to accuse them of inciting people, etc. This would seem to confirm the correctness of my interpretation.

    “Second, they have given conflicting statements, which show they were not preaching or distributing materials. Videos show three of them were holding cameras. The fourth one was holding a microphone arguing with Muslims and giving commentary on previous year’s incident, which involved security guards. Who was holding the Bibles and tracts among those arrested?”

    Are you saying that they have claimed to have been holding Bibles and tracts when they were arrested? Where have they made such a claim?

    • Dr Oakley

      A statement given to the police is that David Wood said he intended to defy the rules, as getting arrested would get more of an outcry. I understand that doesn’t go along with what you want to believe, but facts are facts.

      You sound like yet another critic who doesn’t even know where Dearborn is, let alone does any ministry there. It’s easier to complain than actually do something constructive, isn’t it?

      • Haecceitas

        I would need to know more about that supposed statement by David Wood to comment on that. That’s why I didn’t. But the points I did make are quite relevant – and they are so even if it turns out in the end that Acts 17 weren’t innocent after all. These are simple matters of factual (in)accuracy.

        Please also indicate the part of my previous comment that “sounds” like I don’t even know where Dearborn is.

        • Ekbertus

          Dr. Oakley? Is that really James White? And if it is, was he talking to Wario or Haccientas? Or is it…an impostor! Or is James White saying that David is in the wrong, or that the statement given is a complete fabrication?

          Wario cant you give it up already? The cop literally said to them: “naw your FINE”

          What in the world is the problem?

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            Ekbertus,
            Dr. Oakley was responding to Haccientas. What do you want me to give up? Haven’t you watched, heard on radio or read all the conflicting statements Acts 17 missionaries have made regarding their arrests? I am just searching for the truth in this matter. Acts 17 cannot dismiss Josh McDowell and other Christian workers in Dearborn because they do things differently and were not arrested.

        • Ekbertus

          Impostor James White posting. Dont listen to the imposter.

          BEFORE YOU DELEATED MY POST WARIO, (not everyone who proclaims Lord Lord…), I SAID, WHY DONT YOU GIVE IT UP?!

          THE COP ON TAPE TOLD THEM “NAH YOUR FINE”

          HMMMMM@?

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            I have a life besides this blog, sir. Those who do not have commenting privileges wait, especially first-time commenters. I apologize for the inconvenience.

      • Paul

        Where is this “statement”? Bring it forth if it really exists.

      • Paul
      • http://epagonizesthai.blogspot.com/ Luis Dizon (Fisher)

        You are not James White. Stop posting as “Dr Oakley” as it is a very deceptive title to use.

        • Ekbertus

          Thats what im saying! The deception being thrown around on this blog is just ilke the deception you get from Muslims! I mean what Christian would go around posting as “Dr. Oakley” (besides the real Dr. Oakley) – - NO REAL CHRISTIAN would post as that because it is deception! AN IMPOSTOR! N O T how ANY Christian should act…

          just saying

          • http://www.cracksinthecrescent.com Hussein

            Ekbertus,
            Unlike some blogs where people cannot have a voice, everyone has one here. Quit whining about people maintaining their anonymity. You know for a fact that it was not Dr. James White who made that comment. What is deceptive about that? How about David Wood referring to a video as “Hussein’s video?” What do you call that?

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